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to a deal in washington today. you can tell from the sell-off, investors do not like it. >> no, posting their largest decline since november 14th, in case you were wondering. although we are off the lows of the session right now. the dow was down 189 two hours into the trading session. we've come off those lows. but at this point, the dow is down 1% for the week and we are down 1% today at 13,173. nasdaq lower, as well. let's see how many percentage points we're down right now. down 1.25%. the technology sector is taking a bigger hit today. down to 3,012 on the nasdaq and the s&p 500 index is down 1% at 1428. . >> house speaker john boehner says he's still open to a offer from the democrats. >> it was a dramatic evening last night. john harwood was there. he has the latest on the on talks. are there any talks, john? >> i think so. but they're pretty muted. this bill was not win of those weeks that makes washington look good. come to think of it, there aren't many weeks that make washington look good. but this was especially especially difficult because you had negotiations getting close
on stock holders they are facing something like the debt ceiling debacle. if the armed camps in washington don't disarm and agree to talk to each other in a serious way, and not just the bluster sessions that seem to be happening daily these days, which reminds me, do you remember -- do you remember the debt ceiling nightmare last year? going to those horrendous talks last summer, everybody felt very confident that the president and congress weren't really at loggerheads. market was almost at its high. pretty good, vix low. then like now, we heard that the discord was only political posturing. the stock market forwarded ahead, and the complacency was thick and more people worried about missing a move up rather than talks break down and we might actually default. every time we heard meetings between the president and the speaker like tonight, we figured we would hear mission accomplished the very next day. but we didn't. things got rancorous. ugly stalemate. the market dropped. we got a deal, but only after, not before, we had that hideous sell-off. makes sense. remember how unruly congress
lunch." we have three major news conferences in washington, d.c. president obama will nominate senator john kerry to be his next secretary of state. harry reid will be on the senate floor and house minority leader nancy pelosi will discuss the cliff crisis. with plan b history, washington is scrambling to get a deal done. the markets however are decidedly worried. dow jones has been down triple digits almost all session. we are off our worst lefs, down about 174 point a few moments ago. down 152 on the dow. 17 to the minus side and nasdaq is off almost 40. let's go to washington where john har wood is standing by with the latest on the fiscal cliff follies. john? >> all follies so far, sue. we had house speaker john boehner come out today and have a news conference explaining the failure of his plan b last night which stunned a lot of people because both boehner and eric cantor majority leader said they were confident they had the most to pass it. what he said today at a news conference is that there were members who had a perception which he said was incorrect. it would raise taxes. t
advisors and steven gil garcetg and our own jeff cox. no encouraging words out of washington, here we go again, from either the fed or congress. >> right, and frankly that's very expected. there's going to be a -- some grandstanding about your political philosophies right up until the end, but the way i view this is we will not and cannot go over the fiscal cliff. >> you think the can will be kicked down the road. >> well, i think washington learned its lessons from the credit crisis. they are not going to have this go over the cliff, and i think it's going to be a recipe of a small part of cutting spending. a small part of raising taxes and a healthy doze of kicking the gan down the road. >> you would be so sure that these guys cannot do it when in fact here we are 18 days away. steve sax from your standpoint in, terms of etfs and in terms of indexing out there, how do you want to invest given all of these uncertainties as we approach year end? >> i'm in the camp i certainly hope we can avoid the fiscal cliff, but right now i don't have a lot of confidence. we're still seeing a lot of f
of a resolution, but right now the comments that we got a couple of minutes ago out of washington does not really help the situation. >> so what's the strategy, jonathan? what's the strategy given the comments that we just heard. >> not knowing what taxes will be like next year, i agree with what you said before earlier. you have to take some of the profits off the table, pear down some of your risk and exposure and hold on to ones that you think in the locker term will have performing gains. >> joining us late, the comments we're talking about came from senate majority leader harry reid who said he does not expect a deal before christmas, and he also said if the republicans are expecting the democrats to come up with a list of spending cuts they want, it's not going to happen. they are expecting the republicans to come forward with that first. those are the comments that we've been talking about. carol roth, you're the one that's been identifying those financial planners who are telling their clients sell those winners, and to hang on to the losers here. >> right. this is completely backwards to
're at the new york stock exchange as well looking to open the week on a winning note as washington continues to look for some kind of a deal on the fiscal cliff. >> some kind being the operative words. hello everyone, again. maria is going to be back tomorrow but in the meantime you're stuck with me. let's see what the markets are up to today. the dow holding marginally above water. as for the nasdaq and the s&p, let's get a check on those two as well. they've been kind of positive today, but not superbly so. at least it is a positive start to the trading week. >> now, forget about the number of days -- shopping days until christmas. we're talking about 13 and a half trading days after today how to position your money ahead of what might or might not happen with the fiscal cliff deal. are we ready to go? let's find out how you should be investing. everybody's looking at me like i should not be saying something right now. okay. everybody's there. mandy? >> okay. joining us now we have a cast of thousands. dan mcmahon from raymond james. nathan backrat. and our very own rick santelli. thank yo
house around 3:15 eastern. our john harwood is in washington with some more details on what we know right now. john? >> reporter: well, bill, the horror of this tragedy is also muted talk of anything else in washington for the day, including the fiscal cliff and all the issues that we've been discussing for some time now, but one of the jobs of a president is to console victims and to console the nation at a time of grief of this magnitude, so we're going to hear from the president at 3:15. jay carney earlier saying he wasn't going to discuss issues like gun control. it wasn't a day for politics. it's a day to focus on the victims of the tragedy, so you can expect the president is going to focus his remarks on the victims and what happened in connecticut and the attempt to figure out how it happened, why it happened. we'll hear from him at 3:15, and we're going to bring that to you, and we'll talk about it afterwards. >> all right, john, thank you very much. of course, we often talk about how the markets are a mood reflector, and if that's the case, we very much see a market that is
. >> and in washington, the nra breaks it's silence. the kudlow report starts now. >> all right let's go to john harwitt first in dc. i think i agree with what you were saying first. >>> he moved to plan b and the hope that further negotiations could produce progress. >> our plan b would protect american taxpayers who make $1 million or less and have their current rates extended. i continue to have hope. that would reduce spending as well as revenues on the table. >> but of course the democrats in the senate. didn't see plan b as a step forward. harry reid came out and said, john boehner is walking away from the nenegotiations. >> every time we get down to something from the long-term financial think for this country. they do the charlie brown thing, they jerk the ball away. and this is what is going on. >> the posturing conceals the process that we are not aware of. but i talked to a budget aid that said, he thinks things are getting worse in terms for prospects of a deal. >> by the way, my contacts have said the same thing. you thank you very, very much. all of this may be defying predictions. it is a
about it. the only thing being we're relying on our leaders in washington to try to craft some sort of solution. >> did you have quotes around the word leader then? i'm only watching your lips. if you were to type that, would there be quotes around leaders? >> yes. >> thank you. i rest my case. >> i'm willing to take those quotes off. >> if they show that they are truly leaders without quotes. >> i come to work every day, my tallahassee paycheck, still in my wallet. i was a reporter. i made $137 a week. and if i had seen that go down to 127, i would have been angry. that was my subsistence. there are people who play for dinner in this country and their subsistence are on the line and they're going to be furious. but they're not going to get furious until they see their paycheck. >> it's going to impact gdp in the first quarter, and the second quarter. americans are feeling like they're protected from the democrats? because they're in lower income households? but they won't be. their paychecks will be less because the payroll tax cut will be gone. the amt, also gone. that will affect
to pull off that syntax, though. at this point i think we've got to assume that the washington people, they can't get it together. we've got to gird ourselves for a cliff, make sure that we understand what the dive will look like, and focus on things that are easier to gauge, namely earnings and remembering that if you get aggressive ahead of falling off the cliff you're just going to do poorly. so with that in mind here's your game plan for next week. kicking things off is general electric. okay? i think this is really important. why? because this is the most important talk about the whole -- give you the whole panoply here. and my charitable trust owns ge, and part of that is because we believe it's a terrific play on several huge international themes. energy, conversation, natural gas use, aerospace, health care for worldwide aging population. i expect ge to be very upbeat. i think jeff immelt's going to tell a good story. some of that's because the company just boosted its dividend by 12% today p. you don't do that if you're doing poorly. the meeting will be the most talked about
but mandy has been celebrating boxing day all day. we didn't get any presents from lawmakers in washington yet. we're still five days away from falling off the proverbial fiscal cliff and wall street, like everybody else, is waiting for some kind of a solution here, and as you can see by today's numbers the waiting game continues, although we thank brian sullivan and you, mandy, for bringing us back to positive territory in the last hour. >> i'm not sure we can take credit but we'll take it. >> the dow is up a fraction at the moment. 13,139 after a meandering much of the day. the nasdaq hardest hit today. technology has been very volatile recently. still down a fraction right now. 13 points, fraction percentage-wise and the s&p is down 3.33 at 1423. five days left until the fiscal cliff deadline, and though the market has been very resilient to this point, what happens if we go over the cliff and if lawmakers cannot get it together come january 1st? will it be a big meltdown for wall street? that's what everybody wants to know. >> certainly hope know. in today's "closing bell" exchange, fo
in just a few minutes. stocks are steady. talks continuing in washington. we are just down about 12 points on the dow jones industrial average, 27 days until america goes over that fiscal cliff. the president just finished answering questions on the issue after meeting with governors at the white house and our political correspondent, john harwood is live at the white house and eamon javers is talking with key congressional players on those talks. john, first to you. >> reporter: the president talked to our colleagues at bloomberg and talked about the republican offer from speaker boehner on the fiscal cliff resolution. he said it was out of balance because the speaker has not agreed to rate increases but the president identified a two-step process by which he is hoping still to reach an agreement before the end of the year, if he can get republicans to give on the top rate. he said that first of all, we can't do a fundamental tax reform in the next two weeks. we simply have to have a down payment before the end of the year and then commit to tax and entitlement reform during the year of 2
is happening in washington. what the feds know that perhaps we don't know. >> we are getting smacked around by these two separate events. the fiscal cliff as well as aftermath of what went on with the fed. i think the fed is still very important here. take a look the dow industrials. remember, we started moving down right after we saw mr. bernanke give his press conference. we talked about fiscal cliff having problems, not having the tools to deal with the fiscal cliff. the fed not having it, should we go over that. there we are dealing with the aftermath. remember something folks, september 14 is the high for the s&p this year. you know why that is important in september 13 is the fed meeting. they bought into the fed meeting and sold right after that, sue. and they are doing that again today. we are repeating what happened just a few months ago. i think that's why it is very important. elsewhere, defense stocks. here is a group that's very worried about frustration when mr. bernanke started getting tampered with questions on the fiscal cliff. you saw the defense stocks move down. very rar
. all day long on cnbc, we are here in washington holding lawmakers feet to the fire and finding out if they are doing their part to rise above partisan politics and reach a deal on the fiscal cliff. good morning again, everybody. i'm becky quick. here is what we know right now. the pace of private talks picking up speed as we now have just 20 days left. however, neither the white house nor house speaker boehner's office are giving any public indication that either side is yet prepared to give up real ground. on a road trip yesterday, president obama indicated that he is willing to compromise, just not on that point about an increase in tax for relthy americans. meantime, speaker boehner says he is still waiting on specific spending cuts. joining us now for analysis, tony fratto, of hamilton place strategies and former white house press secretary and gerald bernstein former economic adviser to vice president joe biden. gentlemen, thank you for being here with us and getting this special day of coverage kicked off for us. >> rising early and rising above. >> exactly. let's talk about
other. the clock is really ticking in washington. ticking against a deal. i think the two sides seem to hate each other more than ever. i don't now, it seems like the last 72 hours i was hoping it was going to get better and it seems like it got worse. i spent a ton of time this weekend hanging with old college chum grover norquist. he's as certain as ever that republicans who have impure thoughts about violating his no new tax pledge will be targeted at the primary level by tea party members. i'm taking this masterful behind-the-scenes player at his word that he controls almost all the republicans. because almost all of them signed his oath. so a deal could be tough. plus i'm now calling for no vacation without legislation. no vacation without legislation. because the holidays are slated to begin in a couple of weeks. which doesn't give enough time to get the job done. so you have one side that is insisting on tax increases and offering no spending cuts, and then you have the other side which has pledged no tax increases which assures no deal can occur. after all, even if the presid
of a compromise on the fiscal cliff stalemate in washington. eamon javers standing by in a moment with information on a bipartisan letter from lawmakers that's. putting tax hikes and entitlement cuts firmly on the table. >> i'm bill griffeth. let's show you, and the charts tell the day's story, as it usually does. can you get when the president began speaking at business round table and we learned that at least 40 house republicans are breaking ranks to talk about anything, all possibilities as they said in an open letter. right now the dow is up 110, near the highs of the day. 13,062.59. the nasdaq is going the other direction. blame apple and overall technology having a tough day. down 13 points right now on the nasdaq at 2982. the s&p is holding with a gain of about five points. we'll have more on the markets in a moment. first, let's get to what's going on in washington. more republicans breaking ranks to join what we hope will be a bipartisan call for higher tax rates and entitlement cuts. eamon javers on capitol hill has the very latest details for us. eamon. >> reporter: hi, bill. that lett
. >> the markets watching washington and shuttling back and forth between the white house and the capitol. eamon javers has the latest. >> it looks like at this point the senate is going to have to come back on december 26th to take up among other pieces of legislation the fiscal cliff solution. apparently. so whether or not that's set in stone, we don't know. but it looks like they're floating now the idea of coming back after christmas to finish up a fiscal cliff deal. and the evidence we're getting closer to the deal came today with speaker boehner going for another meeting with president barack obama. he did not answer reporters' questions. we don't know exactly what was said in that meeting, but we know boehner has proposed new tax revenue of up to $1 trillion and agreed to the idea of raising tax rates in order to do that including on those folks making more than a million dollars a year. at the white house jay carney was asked whether the president's going to stick to his $250,000 a year threshold for tax increases. carney kind of wiggled around that question, didn't pin himself down. giv
the fiscal cliff. events moving faster in washington. house speaking boehner meeting with party members, moving to plan b. that deals with bush era tax cuts. the white house rejected that. investors like whatever progress we're seeing. s&p 500 at a two-month high. s&p up 1 1/3 -- 1.1 on s&p, dow jones industrial average up 114 points, almost a full% enand nasdaq up 1 1/3. the latest on how those negotiations are progressing. >> over the last 24 hours or so we've had a flurry of proposals, counter proposals, responses, responses to responses. as it lies right now, basically all those responses have been rejected by the other side. at the top of 2:00, we should have a new round because we're going to expect to hear from the senate democratic and republican leaders coming out and talking to cameras. we might get more reaction then. but earlier today speaker boehner came out and unveiled the big one, a two-track plan that would have the house vote on what he's calling plan b. take a listen to his rational for going that route. >> at this point having a back-up plan to make sure that as few
are down 11 points on the dow jones. that's hinging on disappointment from washington. the nasdaq is up two and a third point. my partner here on the floor of nyse joins me in the action. 24 hours ago we were sitting here with a triple-digit gain, actually. now, there is disappointment in washington. >> let's just say the markets are digesting all of this news today, that means moving side ways, a fancy word, folks. we are talking like 30 points. that pretty small. and the president sounding alternative sounding con ciliatory and often combative as you hear from john harwood. here is the bottom line. big movers, bank stocks, home moving stocks, that sue just referenced. all basically flat today. if you take a look at the one sector though that is still continuing to have a great day, doing it day after day and that's airline stocks, very positive traffic metrics from airlines in the last few weeks and these stocks have been moving up virtually everyday. there is your market today. this is a quiet day when you see airlines as the market leader. >> true. good point. we will see what happens w
to a compromise? we go back to cnbc's eamon javers who joins us from washington with all the details. good evening. >> reporter: good evening, larry. you're right, they did meet today. it was a surprise meeting not announced as the previous meetings between the two men have been in past weeks. so we know that the meeting lasted about 45 minutes and that treasury secretary tim geithner also attended. what we don't know is whether the two men came to any deal or not or advanced the discussions in any way today. what we do know is that up here on capitol hill, senator harry reid, the democratic leader, suggested to his fellow senators that they might consider coming back on december 26th, the day after christmas, to finish up the fiscal cliff which suggests to you that they might be heading down the path toward a deal, although that is not set in stone. meanwhile, over at the white house, the press secretary, jay carney, was asked about where the president stands on the fiscal cliff. and he did his best to give as invasive an answer as possible and keep the negotiating wiggle room open. take a listen
. i want to get to washington with some of the latest headlines regarding speaker boehner and what eamon is referring to as plan b. >> what we know is the speaker is in the basement of the capital building here right now, meeting with republican lawmakers to brief them on the status of the fiscal cliff negotiation, and what a gop leadership aide is now telling news news is the speaker is now prepared to offer what he's calling a plan b, or a modified plan b in which we don't do the grand big deal that the president and speaker of the negotiating on, but instead do something much smaller that would eliminate the pending tax increases for all americans, the speaker saying that he would like to have some kind of a deal, a modified scaled-down proposal now that would eliminate those for as many people as he can. the details are very sketchy on what modified plan b actually means in practice. but basically, it's something he can keep in his hip pocket right now in case these negotiations with the president don't bear fruit. and presumably what we're talking about here, carl, is a little
comes out of washington, if anything. of course, mr. boehner has gone back to his home in ohio for the weekend. the president is on duty at the white house. there are phones, as mr. boehner said, in southern ohio where he lives. if there are any developments, the two gentlemen certainly will be able to get in touch with one another. meantime, there are some individual stock stories of interest at this hour. and one of them concerns facebook. be a facebook lockup expires today and 150 million shares will open up on the market. the last time we had a lockup expiration many expected to see the stock drop. instead, it rallied. right now, no, not so much. facebook down about 89 cents so 3% at 2735. but it is up about 25% over the past three months. julia has the details for us from washington. >> tyler, this is the fourth of five lockup expiration periods. today's potential sellers could also sell in ipos. we shouldn't see any pent up demand to sell. facebook shares are dropping today, off about 3 percent percent as you mentioned. a bit of profit taking after the company's massive r
are watching every move out of washington. the industrials opened higher by 45. the nasdaq would open higher by 10. the s&p 500 would open higher by six. >>> and the fed wrapping up its two-day meeting this afternoon. its latest policy statement is expected at 12:30 eastern. that will be followed by a news conference at 2:15 p.m. the fed is expected to announce a new round of bond purchases as its last program known as operation twist set to expire at the end of the month. we'll have special coverage at cnbc of the decision and ben bernanke's news conference starting at 12:15. we'll talk to steve leaseman live later in the program. >>> another story that you heard about yesterday, the -- you know, violence and death threats and blood and guts. big implications for big labor. that is michigan's decision to become a right-to-work state. thousands of protesters and union members converged on the capitol in lansing yesterday to object to the measure that would bar unions from requiring workers to pay membership dues and to join the union. governor snyder signed the measure into law. >> shouldn't
in the whole vietnam war. so let's get to cnbc's washington correspondent john harwood to talk about how washington will handle the gun control issue. i guess that's what we'll talk about this time. we have a lot to talk to you about involving washington. i guess the lead, obviously, we would be talking about boehner, too, at some point, john. do you have comments on the gun control issue? >> well, i think you saw in the president's address last night, a politician who had been deeply impacted by what happened, like the entire country has been impacted. and i think it is changing the calculus, the way he looks at political risk on this issue. democrats, as you know, joe, for some time has shied away from pushing gun control out of the believe that it is a loser for them politically. republicans have done well when democrats tried to push the gun control bill. there is a broad swath of public opinion that favors things like bans on assault weapons and high volume magazine clips for weapons. i think the president is saying -- when he said on friday, even, before the speech last evening, he
of different cross currents from what people were hearing yesterday in washington. market well above 100. >> ended up 85 for the day. >> i guess the demise of john boehner as speaker was greatly exaggerated. did you see this "new york times" piece? more support for boehner now than anytime in his speaker ship. is that's setting up for -- >> but it is social media and twitter allows to you see these things. >> sausage factory into the front of the kitchen. >> exactly. >> geithner didn't use the word marginal rates had to go up, just said rates. >> rates are already going up. there will be a tax increase to people making more than 250 anyway because of the health care law. so the idea that somehow they will get a freebie is just crazy. >> california at 52%, new york and other places -- >> when you add up all the state and local taxes. hawaii is above 50, as well. >> hawaii is worth it, though. >> california is not bad either. >> unless you need to drive somewhere. right? and don't have a helicopter. >> there's a reason the president takes a helicopter anywhere. you can't drive in d.c. sdl
-year, and this, when we used to go and see greenspan down in washington, he said everything else you have on your ticker, i need to see the 10 year. i need to see that every morning. nothing has happened in the ten year for the last -- i don't know. it's just not as interesting as it used to be to watch. when it's manipulated, it's not that interesting. >> one of the things about qe is that it's volatility. and you have seen implied vols down in all asset classes, including bonds. >> because things normally are volatile, that just shows us once again this is not letting things -- letting the chips fall where they may. >> yeah. i think it's baked into the cake. >> but i think he's on to something. the fact that the fed is there, the fact that the fed is trying to get ahead of the fiscal cliff and we've got these big bond buying programs. and the last time, remember, in august of 2011 when we had the last showdown, what happened? bonds rallied. >> and you said you want this to be fixed. you almost need the markets to be more volatile than they are. >> that's one of the theories that people have thr
of credit to the fed, perhaps, but also feel the debate shifted yesterday in washington. i began to hear way too many people say, you know what the president is curiously unengaged when it comes to cuts. i have always felt the president had the upper hand in this debate. i listened to bernanke and bernanke says, listen, i know they aren't going to come to deal. i see a lot of republicans on air saying we start to understand what they are they want as cuts. not hearing anything from the president. made me feel grim about the fiscal cliff, good about what the fed wants to do, very grim about the power of the fed, beyond what it's already done. >> the "wall street journal"/nbc news poll of americans about the fiscal cliff, some very interesting findings, just to that point, jim, two-thirds polled want congress to strike a deal and cut the budget, even if that means social security and medicare cuts. so, according to this poll, the people are saying, yes, go ahead, cut entitlements and say that obama has a mandate, among those that did not vote for obama, they have -- that they say that there is
big thing is no vacation without legislation. >> right. >> the "washington post" said as of last night, the halls of the capital were virtually deserted. >> cody's the only guy working there. that's embarrassing, isn't it? >> the president is scheduled to go to hawaii a week from today. >> it's boehner and obama. >> there are things, there's a telephone. understand, they have phone service in ohio and hawaii. >> there's an urgency here that dave cody gets. why? because he has said, i'm not hiring until we get this stuff fixed. now, why doesn't that -- well, everybody, the job, small business job creator. come on, man. honeywell hires. that means other towns do great. that means you get into a very virtuous cycle mode. david, it is not about the small businessman. the little businessman doesn't do well unless the big businessman does well. >> who are they selling to? >> honeywell just hired 200 people. >> no doubt about it. >> the opening bell here at the new york stock exchange for a friday. top of the screen, the s&p 500. nasdaq, avago technologies. >> single-family rentals, homes for
or the "washington post." 180 degrees. >> what did he mean? >> there's plenty for conspiracy theorists today. ties to all the central banks all around the world, they have these secret dinners every couple of months. as if the fed needed more distrust among fed watchers, right? >> i havend the privilege last r of going to a dinner with fisher, who is crucial -- you look at the diagram. this is just an alumni association that has allowed other people in. this is an m.i.t. thing. fisher is regarded as being the man who saved east asia in the '90s. you know, these guys have been more than upfront that there's a club. i think it's just being written about for the first time. >> yeah. mark, the consensus is $45 billion in monthly purchases of treasuries. that's what's expected. if we don't get that, a lot of market analysts believe that the markets will be extremely disappointed. this off of a string of gains. the first five-day winning streak for the dow since march. the dow, in fact, is at, what, the highest level since october 22nd. s&p the highest level since november 6th, which, of course, was the
. the more wall street washington is rising above, the higher the market goes. >> rejection of how john boehner's plan "b" thatty had came out with today. the major averages are all trading around two-month highs today because it seems like progress is still being made on some kind of a deal. here's where we stand right now. the dow up 98 points, was up 125 at the high, and then the white house rejected and some comments by senate majority leader harry reid on that so-called plan "b" proposal from john boehner, sort of took some of the wind out of the sails. nasdaq still up 1.25%, a 3348 and the s&p 500 index is up 12-plus points right now at 1443. >> while the dow on pace for the first back-to-back triple-digit gains in nearly five months. can we hold on for the final hour? >> let's talk about that in our closing bell exchange. carol roth, the author of "entrepreneurial equation" is with us. from chicago, keith springer from springer financial adviser and john carpina is on the floor with us, and rick santelli, of course, is in chicago as well. carol, you've been skeptical about this m
of questions focusing on the issue. washington correspondent john harwood at the white house right now. john, perhaps no one has followed the twists and turns as much as you in all of these negotiations. why now does it feel like things are not in as good a place as we thought? >> because there's a lot of resistance within the republican caucus, maria, to the idea of raising taxes on anyone so that the concession that john boehner made toward the president, while it didn't go nearly as far as the president wanted, is one that's very difficult for him to maintain within his caucus. we've heard the club for growth come out this afternoon and owe poets speaker's plan "b" even though the grover norquist group, american for tax reform, says it's not an increase, but that balancing act is making it difficult for john boehner to respond to the offer the president laid down so he walked away, said that the president's offer was not balanced, didn't have enough spending cuts, and the president in trying to drive home the case that the speaker needs to cooperate with him and compromise with him, came
with our xaernt washington correspondents. good morning, john. were you up all night? >> not all night, but we stayed on, of course, until 9:00 after it was clear that the house alternative had collapsed. but, joe, i was listening to your conversation earlier. this is not about the far left and the far right. this is about the republican party not being able to get its act together and figuring out and strategy and pursuing a strategy. >> i watched the press conference yesterday. all the reporterses, all the mainstream media reporters were saying, mr. boehner, why are you going through this exercise? this is an exercise in futility. why are you doing this? why even hold the vote? and then he can't do it and now all of you are going, see, see, you can't even do it. >> but it does raise questions about what this means for -- >> joe, it's not about the mainstream media. it's about the inability of this republican party to face the -- face political reality. the president was re-elected. his positions are much more popular where the country than theirs. they are locked into a caucus in the
. ackman says they are doing today. >> a perfect storm is brewing in washington and at this hour. the house gets set to vote on plan b which the white house has said is a nonstarter. house speaker boehner will hold a news conference in about 15 minutes or so. we will take it live here. first, to john hart wood at the white house. john? >> sue, we've had a pretty relentless game of messaging bing pong between democrats and republicans today. we hear from eric cantor about plan b that house intends to take up. then we heard from harry reed, now just behind me, jay carney is briefing. but bottom line from the standpoint of republicans, as negotiations with the white house have broken down, is that as eric cantor said a few minutes guy to reporters, they put the onus squarely on the president right now, saying that the action by the house today, which they say they have the votes to pass is the only concrete action to avoid the fiscal cliff. >> and the president has a decision to make. he can support these measures or be responsible for wreckless spending in the largest tax hike in american his
in washington. plus how many people are selling stocks just because they'll take their gains this year. because taxes will be higher next year. >> you're seeing people with if you have a large position in a company, this is probably the right time to take it. if it's a large percentage, 10%, 15%, 20% of your net worth, sell it now. >> and if you're planning to retire in the next three to five years, you're probably better off doing your allocation change thousand than you are saying -- >> this might be awful next year, too. isn't moynihan going to -- if we go over the cliff, it's not going to be a great year for stocks. >> it won't be a great year for hiring. >> left's already started. everybody is hiring temporary workers. they're not buying. they're leasing. you have more up front costs because you're trying to defer any long tirm purchase. but that's been happening now for two months. so you can look at the other way and say if we actually get a resolution, you might have more certainty which we're all looking for and companies saying you can actually make a capital projection as opposed to
, listening to that conversation, a few minutes before the opening bell, front page of the "washington post," investors aren't waiting for a deal. they're selling stock, they're trying to sell homes. they're setting up shelters, gifts for taxes. this discussion is not academic by any stretch of the imagination. >> we have to avoid the cliff, period. >> yes, we do. >> we do. to your point, carl, $20 billion in special dividends have been paid out this quarter. some of the economists said this would be a jump of income in the household, payouts to dividends, acceleration into this year. >> becky and jim, who have been doing amazing work on capitol hill, did talk to grover norquist, a bit of a rematch after cramer's appearance a couple of weeks ago with grover norquist. >> obama personally moved it out two years, because he didn't want to raise taxes and damage the economy, because he said the economy was weak. the economy's not strong now. so the argument to raise taxes now is not any better than it was two years ago. i think there's a real danger we could end up with some damaging tax increa
quickly here. john harward in washington here today. thanks a lot. the cheddar, bacon, onion sandwich that boosted sales for mcdonald's in december. >> steve liesman's exclusive interview with richmond fed president jeffrey lacquer. the lone dissenter at every fed policy meeting this year. more "squawk on the street" after this. the . >>> all right. if the sight of this sandwich makes your mouth water, then you are in luck. because the mcrib is back at mcdonald's today. but how much do limited time offers really impact on sales? we're here to break down the mcrib effect. ladies, great to have you with us. rachel, i'll start off with you. what sort of impact could we see potentially in the month of december? i read in the past, in 2010 at least, one of these limited introduction offers that it actually boosted sales by almost 5%. >> i think it depends on what the lto is and what the prior year same-store comparison is. i wouldn't expect to see a positive number of the magnitude that you're discussing. actually, frankly, it will probably be something in the single digit negatives. but a
coverage live from washington. mission critical, rise above d.c., all day long. becky quick, jim cramer, maria bartiromo holding their feet to the fire about where they stand on the fiscal cliff and how they'll do their part to rise above partisan politics and reach a deal. now, there are some bowles comments. 40%, yeah, but the odds are much better. they're still 35% chance it will not happen. it's not exactly confidence building. >> not necessarily confidence building. always interesting to me how people can put percentage chances on anything like this. seeing how difficult it is and how the story changes to a certain steextent each day. who knows what's going to happen. >> public care, confidence numbers, spending, any relationship to the fiscal cliff at five. >> i don't know. i just don't know. i think anecdotally, from what i have been able to observe, no. but i can't speak for that. the journal today has the lead stories of consumer spending starting so slow. and in part, they cite the fiscal cliff. i think if you were out there, you would get answers that would not necessarily de
of the market is much better than the tone out of washington. like i said, there's always ait. right here on "mad money." i'm jim cramer and i'll see you tomorrow. >>> good evening, everyone. i'm larry kudlow. so a crucial moment for our economy and for our right to bear arms. high drama on capitol hill right now as house republican speaker john boehner looks to pass his plan b fiscal cliff bill in a million dollar tax threshold. votes aren't there yet. that's why we are following this live through the whole thing this evening. >>> and as the president's new anti-gun violence task force starts work, we learn that now outside experts have yet joined that panel. meanwhile, the debate on gun control rages across the country. tonight we will hear from outspoken tv host piers morgan and former new york mayor rudolph giuliani. "the kudlow report" begins right now. >>> first up, the latest on the vote of plan b. the plan b bill sponsored by john boehner that may decide how deep into january they have to go for a solution. may decide the fate of the economy and the stock market and decide the fat
. and our steve leesman is one of the lucky few who gets a question and he joins us now from washington. this is really something that not a lot of people expected, steve. >> i think that's right, tyler. and it is absolutely historic. fed for the first time putting economic targets around its funds rate projections and first of all, the other news was that it did end -- it said it would end to replace that so that brings the monthly purchases of long-term assets to $85 billion. i want to show you some math. the current level of the math call it 2.8 trillion. add a trillion to that, you will be at 3.8 trillion if we do go at this pace for a full year here. the precrisis level is $800 billion. i want it put it another way, tyler. increase the balance sheet from '09 to '12 by a trillion dollars. we will do that in one year. aggressive policy from the fed. unaggressive as tyler mentioned the idea of using economic targets for funds rate. we know they were talking about it. we know there was support. we didn't think the federal reserve had unanimity enough to do this. only jeff lacker from r
without finishing their project. >> a couple good poll numbers out today. abc/"the washington post" if we went off people would blame gop by two to one margin and then the pew poll. 49% do not believe a deal will be reached. 40% say a deal will be reached. >> i just know that if you're a republican, there's a primary. if you are going to run in that primary going forward, you'll have no problem provided you pledge to norquist not to raise taxes and you don't. these guys don't worry about primaries. they don't care about what the republicans -- they don't even think themselves as republicans. they think of themselves as anti-tax people. and they feel they pledged to their constituents that they're won't be any tax. that's all they care about. >> they're $800 billion plus into a deal. >> i guess the gap has been -- >> right. it's been narrowed. >> every offer is something. >> both of the offers were exactly what both sides promised during the campaign. they're still not willing to get off the stump. i think they believe we're no closer than where we were last year. >> didn't it take your br
in washington. >> do expect to close this deal second half. final question, the cme works they consider doing anything, coming in over the top? highly unlikely. my sources say because of anti-trust certainly in one way. didn't the first time when there was up potential. that is not expected. this deal is expected to make it to the finish line. one never knows. two shareholder votes needed. ice and nyse. >> fabulous reporting. first to get the deal price. well done. >> topic of conversation in this room this morning. as jim mentioned, futures on the rise a day after a concern about the fiscal cliff talks weighed on stocks. the batlogical escalate today. the house set to vote on boehner's so-called plan b. keep taxes from rising with people i incomes below $1 million in the event no deal is struchblg the president will veto the bill if it passes congress, he says yesterday, take me out of it take the deal. that was followed by the speakers a famous now -- by now famous 59-seconders were. jim, your point about big changes of control, these big disposition of assets happening, corporate america d
out of washington. but before we get to that, why don't we start with our day anticipates top story. the i.c.e. and the nyse are in talks. the numbers put the price tag at about $8 billion. >> we watched this -- now, you said you were watching this last night with kudlow, right? >> i did. >> did you think david faber? did you think when was book ending? on this, it went up last night. i don't know why this chart is showing no movement. it went up six points. >> yeah, right. >> that wouldn't even bring those -- because we watched. faber was talking about that last night. >> maybe if we show the prior day. >> that was the prior day. >> there's a glitch or something. >> that was the prior day that didn't show the after hours trading card. it was right about 720 been i think, wasn't it? >> and all this followed and it's a big story. >> well, it is. it's interesting because it's nyse euronext. >> and this isn't the first time that i.c.e. did this. >> no. you will are ebb that i.c.e. made a joint unsuccessful bid for control of the nyse last year. when the two withdrew their offers, they
if they don't do their job in washington. we're obviously concerned about it. if they deal with it, which we think they will. we think that next year should be pretty positive. >> meanwhile big party tonight? >> big party tonight, big party last night. >> that's what the city's all about. >> we'll be opening white plains in may, it will be a little warmer than it was up there last night. it's very exciting to see those hotels get done. 1,000 jobs for the city. >> you see at the bottom of your screen, nat gas inventory. >> listen natural gas prices are extending their gains from yet, after that 4% rally that we saw. we're looking at resistance perhaps around the 4.75 level. we saw a natural gas level that was certainly not what analysts were expectings. 65 billion cubic feet which is much greater than what the consensus was. that was between 64 and 68 million cubic feet. but it's also far greater than what we normally see this time of year. greater than last year's withdrawal. greater than the five-year average and it lets you know that we saw much cooler temperatures last week that certainly
christmas in washington, do they? >> you have thursday, friday and monday, right? >> you have a lot of aides prepared to come back after christmas to try and make sure they're not too far away from d.c. it does look encouraging. you've had movements on both sides. you've had boehner indicating that he's willing to accept and rising tax rate for the wealthiest. at the same time, you've had the president scaling back the limit to which those tax rates go up the. >> and they're not arguing about idealogical points any more. >> exactly. >> and what about the debt ceiling? do you think this gets thrown to the mix or not? >> well, i think the white house knows very strongly that as far as the markets are concerned, they want to try and get some kind of clarity for the next few months. after the last couple of years, no one really trusts the government or trusts the administration to not have a series of crisis and tiptoeing to the edge. so my bet is they will try to get some sort of deal. >> who has more trouble convincing the people they need to sign off? boehner could get enough with democrats a
in washington and how the fiscal cliff is likely to effect investment decisions. we have value investor leon cooperman, he's going to join us on set starting at 7:00 eastern time. then at 8:00 eastern, we have black op co-founder and ceo ralph schlosstein. and lynn hutchins will join us. we'll talk about what they see playing out and what they think is working when it comes to the markets now. >> the bill that the president says is in the house that he will sign if -- that's in the senate -- >> the senate. >> the senate that he will sign if the house passes it is what? >> that is $. >> -- that is 250? >> 250? >> he said 400. he said, i have the pen, let's keep tax rates where they are for everyone at 250 and below. so this one, that's c these guys are pretty clever because that would keep rates where they are for everyone at a million and below. no middle-class taxpayers up to a million dollars -- >> that's no matter what, isn't it, in either bill? >>yon r -- i think it would be the same in either one. that's not -- what reid and i guess pelosi, you saw that, said she opposes the million-dol
of the rate that high workers are. we don't want to draw the best and most skilled workers in washington. >> it is interesting to me, people seem to know this. 67% of us think that the people in the private sector work harder than those in the public sector. the federal workforce has more machine money. we are supposed to be having budget cuts. why isn't anyone looking for it. this is one of the areas where republicans have pushed for spending restraint. there is a lot of money here. federal workers outside of the military cost us $240 billion a year. 100,000 beurocrats in the department of agriculture. let's privatize a lot of it. half a million people work for the post office. let the private sector figure it out. >> president obama has hired 143,000 federal workers since he took office. >> i don't think anybody knew that. >> thank you to chris edwards. i appreciate it. that is it for tonight's show. thank you for watching. we will be back tomorrow evening with much more.
: in washington, d.c., flags are flying at half staff as the country mourns with this small connecticut town that has lost so much. of course, thoughts and prayers of this entire community tonight are with those 26 victims that died here at the school. 20 young children under the age of 10 and also six adults. meanwhile, the investigation here continues. that's the story live in newtown, connecticut. chris pollone, nbc news, back to you. >> many thanks to chris. now to try to talk something sensible about this, we welcome blake zeft to the show, a former obama presidential campaign aide. we welcome back nan hayworth and mark simone. nan, let me begin with you, please. you're a doctor. >> yes. >> i know you're not a mental health doctor. but it has been alleged that he has asperger's syndrome, personality disorders -- nobody knows. does mental health play a huge role in this, from what you know? >> well, i'm the mother of two sons as well. i just can't imagine the scene at that elementary school. and of course the families whose children survived. these children who witnessed this. there's no
are headed to washington. let us know what's happening. >> he's going to fix it. >> we're going to have pizza. >> make sure you join us tomorrow. "squawk on the street" is next. ♪ >>> led zeppelin to wash away monday blues. congrats to the band for winning kennedy center honors last night. welcome to "squawk on the street." i'm carl quintanilla along with jim cramer, david faber live at nyse. melissa will join us in the next hour. we're kicking off the month of december with strength. anticipating good auto numbers today. greece unveiling that $10 billion eurobond buyback. a 52-week high in france and germany. our road map this morning begins in washington where fiscal cliff negotiations according to the "times" has "collapsed." at least for now. with less than a month until the deadline, who blinks first if anyone? >> goldman takes dell from a strength to a buy. is it time to look at the stock and maybe even other players in the beat up personal computer sector? >> manufacturing data out of china. not bad. 50.6. that's the highest in seven months. although shanghai again trades lower even
day here on continuing hopes that we will get some sort of deal out of washington. also, with that euro stronger, that's certainly boding well, the dollar a bit weaker. we've got bullish numbers out of the american petroleum institute looking ahead to today's inventory numbers coming from the government. drawdown on crude, drawdowns all across the board. that is supported in the energy sector. but do watch today the january contract expires today. there's much more action in the february contracts. we have to watch the curve a little bit. we could see a little bit of volatility. we'll be back at 10:30 with those inventory numbers from the government. back to you guys. >> all right. thanks very much, bertha coombs. we want to talk about sirius satellite radio. the longtime ceo stepping aside. effective immediately. a bit earlier than had been anticipated. this is a company that is more or less controlled by liberty. and will soon be officially controlled by liberty. they are still waiting for the fcc's right of control to essentially go through. 49.8% of the company right
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